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  • sambhav

    Can you please specify the income tax section under which the forward cover gain be taxable?

    • Jigar Patel, CFA (USA), MBA-Finance (USA), CPA (USA), CA (India)

      The most important point is whether it is an income or not (gift). If income, whether taxable or exempt. If it is not exempt, it is taxable. As per Section 56 (1) of the Income Tax Act “Income of every kind which is not to be excluded from the total income under this Act shall be chargeable to income-tax under the head “Income from other sources”, if it is not chargeable to income-tax under any of the heads specified in section 14, items A to E.”

  • Sandeep

    Mr. Patel,

    Read both your articles, very well written and very useful. Thank you.

    I am considering significant investment into a Forward Linked FCNR deposit. I am offered an yield of about 15% I suppose due to the Forward premium. I note from your articles that taxation remains a grey area. Do you see any other risks?

    I’d much appreciate your clarification on the applicability of the Forward Contract itself. As in your example, at 80+ per $ I am sure the bank wouldn’t have an issue honoring the Forward, but what if INR appreciates rapidly to <40 per $, will the bank still honor the Forward? Or is the Forward valid only as long as the INR remains above a preset threshold, say 50 per $?

    Cheers.

    • Jigar Patel, CFA (USA), MBA-Finance (USA), CPA (USA), CA (India)

      I do not see any other risk for now. However, please consult your financial or tax advisor before making investments. You would have to check the contract whether there is any preset threshold. Usually there is none, but your written contract would be final. Please do not trust any words or promises of customer reps but read the contract.

  • Dinesh

    Hi,
    I just went on HDFC web site to check info the bank provides on Rupeemax.
    According to their website, listed below, they don’t claim to provide tax exemption on the entire amount for RupeeMax.
    It seems banks have taken note to Jigar Patel comment and made some correction.
    http://www.hdfcbank.com/nri_banking/accounts/fcnr_deposits/foreign_currency_deposits.htm

    However, I would like to hear Jigar’s view on the request from Sandeep Patel in the email chain above.

    Thanks and keep up the great work.

    Dinesh

    • Jigar Patel, CFA (USA), MBA-Finance (USA), CPA (USA), CA (India)

      Thank you and I really appreciate your kind words. But I can not take credit of what I didn’t do. HDFC already had “-” marked on taxation and I have mentioned it in my blog as well. The taxation comes into picture only when there is a gain i.e. spot exchange rate at maturity is lower than the forward rate and I think banks have not taken that into consideration. Thanks for your overwhelming comment.

  • Dennis

    Hi Jigar,
    See below answers to my questions from HDFC bank. Your thoughts? Thx.
    Dennis
    USA

    Dear Sir,

    1. How bank will define sell rate and forward buy rate? What is the formula to be used? – Sir, there is no formula to calculate the forward rate. It is the interest rate differential between two currencies and this is available at the inter bank levels.

    2. Interest on FCNR account is not included in individual total income and is exempt from Income Tax in India as per Section 10(15)(iv)(fa). However, the gain on forward contract is subject to income tax in India. Also, Banks are responsible u/s. 195 to deduct the tax on the gain. Is that true? Do I get earnings documents for tax purpose every year from the bank? – Sir, As far as taxation is concerned there are no tax implications for you here in India, however on repatriation to your country depending upon the global taxation laws, the money you repatriate shall attract taxes for which you should consult your CA, who can give you accurate details. However, in India we shall not be deducting any taxes while your repatriate your maturity amount. Also there is deposit slip which you shall receive with the maturity details being mentioned on the same with maturity dates and amounts.

    In comparisons, I don’t see tax cost to arrive at net earnings. Please do revert and advise. – Sir, when you make any investments from your NRE Account , there are no tax implications whatsoever that are deducted in India, only on repatriation depending upon the country you wire the money as per global taxation laws it shall attract taxes.

    Thanks and good day.

    • Jigar Patel, CFA (USA), MBA-Finance (USA), CPA (USA), CA (India)

      1. Ok.
      2. I have a different opinion as mentioned in the blog.
      3. Effect of tax on net income – you have to judge yourself. I think it matters.
      Thanks.

  • Rob

    Hi,

    I just filed for an FCNR deposit with Kotak bank with 12.5% interest rate for a tenure of 5 years. Being a US resident I am now worried how much will my earnings (principal and interest) will be subject to taxation since I will be filing joint taxes with my partner in the state of NY.

    Please advice.

    • Jigar Patel, CFA (USA), MBA-Finance (USA), CPA (USA), CA (India)

      The interest on FCNR deposit will be taxable and you would have to show the same in your 1040. You may have to file Form 8938 and FBAR if the investment amount is above the reporting threshold. Please contact your CPA for taxation of forward contract. Thanks.

  • Dr Mohan Raj

    Could you comment on the following banks response ?

    I have read the blog which you have sent me.The interpretation of FCNR forward cover is wrong by this CA because of following reasons.

    1. Normally forward cover is taken to hedge your position to save potential currency loss. The forward cover in India is taken by major exporters in India. There is no case of Income so no tax arises.
    2. This blog mentioned about when you transfer funds from different currencies but all the banks are doing FCNR forward from funds which are already there in NRE account.
    3. We have many clients who have done the forwards with us and their deposits have matured as well and we have not deducted any tax.

    Plus sending you this email and confirming that there is no TDS on income arise on maturity of FCNR forward.

    • Jigar Patel, CFA (USA), MBA-Finance (USA), CPA (USA), CA (India)

      If the interest rate difference if more than 1%+, you may do it. Please note that the yield difference is a gimmick. The interest rate on NRE deposits are compounded quarterly. While the yield may be 11%, if the same is converted into quarterly compounded interest rate, it could be just 9.25%. You need to compare this rate with NRE FD rate and only if it is more than 1.5-2%+, I would recommend. The taxation of interest is debatable and of the bank says it is not taxable and no TDS deducted, you may take that risk. Thanks.

  • Dr Mohan Raj

    Suppose the banks give written commitment that they will not take TDS then are we safe ? Funds are from UAE where there is no tax.

    • Jigar Patel, CFA (USA), MBA-Finance (USA), CPA (USA), CA (India)

      Yes, provided you get about 1.5-2+% more than NRE. Thanks.

  • Dr Mohan Raj

    Dear Mr. Jigar,
    Thanks for your earlier inputs. One more clarification :
    Kotak Bank in their web site for High Yield Currency Plan state :
    1) Invest through your foreign currency funds or NRE deposit
    2) Minimum NRE deposit amount is Rs. equivalent of USD 25,000/- or equivalent in any of the nine currencies for which we have a Nostro account
    3) Interest earned are exempted form Income tax in India
    4) Fully and freely repatriable deposit (both principal and Interest)

    Just wanted to know if the bank has a NOSTRA account does it change the situation regarding possible taxation ?
    Thanks

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